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	<title>Comments on: The Case for an Educational Mac</title>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2006/06/the-case-for-an-educational-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-150</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 00:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone seems to want an iMac for $799.

The only compromise that seems acceptable is to use the integrated graphics of the Mini.

But you can&#039;t keep DVD burners and all the other bells and whistles and expect to save $500!

I question whether tooling down to 15&quot; would save any money, since that would require a new enclosure
(with the CRT eMac the bulbous case was the most expensive part)

17&quot; panels are cheap - keep the 17&quot; form factor for the new eMac, but plan on stripping out more than just the dedicated graphics if you want a machine that sells for $799.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/firefox.png' title='Firefox 1.5.0.4' style='border:0px;' alt='Firefox 1.5.0.4'/> <a href='http://mozilla.org' title='Firefox 1.5.0.4' rel='nofollow'>Firefox 1.5.0.4</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>Everyone seems to want an iMac for $799.</p>
<p>The only compromise that seems acceptable is to use the integrated graphics of the Mini.</p>
<p>But you can&#8217;t keep DVD burners and all the other bells and whistles and expect to save $500!</p>
<p>I question whether tooling down to 15&#8243; would save any money, since that would require a new enclosure<br />
(with the CRT eMac the bulbous case was the most expensive part)</p>
<p>17&#8243; panels are cheap &#8211; keep the 17&#8243; form factor for the new eMac, but plan on stripping out more than just the dedicated graphics if you want a machine that sells for $799.</p>
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		<title>By: nova.e</title>
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		<dc:creator>nova.e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2006 17:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My first thought on this when the rumors broke was that a less-expensive iMac replacement--15&quot; screen, no camera or Front Row, $799--was a great solution. Both my children attend elementary/middle schools in Wake County, NC, which is currently facing challenges throughout the school system as the population expands at astronomical rates. As they build new schools and shift resources, a somewhat portable computer seems an advantage, but I think kids (mine, anyway) do better in a workstation environment, and laptops may provide more flexibility than a classroom needs, or can be easily managed.

A compact and good-looking computer that&#039;s easy to manage and easy to transport makes sense in a lot of ways. An all-in-one solution sounds best of all, but the eMac is yesterday and the iMac is too expensive. I would think Apple would benefit from introducing a Jetsons-inspired school Mac (SMAC, for short) ASAP, and maybe a SMACBOOK (for the higher grades) as well.

Should Apple introduce such a computer, I would buy one for each of my children, for use here at home. Should they not, I&#039;ll need to decide between one iMac--which is what I use--at $1299, or one Dell desktop at around $900, well-equipped and with monitor. Speaking as a parent and a Mac user, I would rather spend the extra money, give my children discrete workstations and the advantage of the Mac experience, rather than compromise on what I want for them or spend more that I should.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 417.9.3' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 417.9.3'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 417.9.3' rel='nofollow'>Safari 417.9.3</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>My first thought on this when the rumors broke was that a less-expensive iMac replacement&#8211;15&#8243; screen, no camera or Front Row, $799&#8211;was a great solution. Both my children attend elementary/middle schools in Wake County, NC, which is currently facing challenges throughout the school system as the population expands at astronomical rates. As they build new schools and shift resources, a somewhat portable computer seems an advantage, but I think kids (mine, anyway) do better in a workstation environment, and laptops may provide more flexibility than a classroom needs, or can be easily managed.</p>
<p>A compact and good-looking computer that&#8217;s easy to manage and easy to transport makes sense in a lot of ways. An all-in-one solution sounds best of all, but the eMac is yesterday and the iMac is too expensive. I would think Apple would benefit from introducing a Jetsons-inspired school Mac (SMAC, for short) ASAP, and maybe a SMACBOOK (for the higher grades) as well.</p>
<p>Should Apple introduce such a computer, I would buy one for each of my children, for use here at home. Should they not, I&#8217;ll need to decide between one iMac&#8211;which is what I use&#8211;at $1299, or one Dell desktop at around $900, well-equipped and with monitor. Speaking as a parent and a Mac user, I would rather spend the extra money, give my children discrete workstations and the advantage of the Mac experience, rather than compromise on what I want for them or spend more that I should.</p>
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		<title>By: woz</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2006/06/the-case-for-an-educational-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-127</link>
		<dc:creator>woz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 09:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps it would be a good idea to look at how the Mac is used first. What exactly do the kids use the Mac for? What do teatches want the kids to use their Mac for? Does it has to be in every classroom? Do the kids need to burn DVD&#039;s in every classroom? Is it useful to make notes on a Mac (or PC)? What about plain old pen and paper? How about raoming profiles? Perhaps Apple can examine the situation first? Or have they done so already?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/firefox.png' title='Firefox 1.5.0.4' style='border:0px;' alt='Firefox 1.5.0.4'/> <a href='http://mozilla.org' title='Firefox 1.5.0.4' rel='nofollow'>Firefox 1.5.0.4</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>Perhaps it would be a good idea to look at how the Mac is used first. What exactly do the kids use the Mac for? What do teatches want the kids to use their Mac for? Does it has to be in every classroom? Do the kids need to burn DVD&#8217;s in every classroom? Is it useful to make notes on a Mac (or PC)? What about plain old pen and paper? How about raoming profiles? Perhaps Apple can examine the situation first? Or have they done so already?</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Doty</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2006/06/the-case-for-an-educational-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-126</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Doty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2006 02:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a teacher, I agree we need  an education mac. You are almost on target with your article of 6-7. Leave the optical drive in. Make it a super drive so the kids can burn cd / dvd of projects and play them at school or at home. I would also like to see a port to connect computer to TV or to connect computer to projector device. Many classrooms have ONE computer. If you can project or enlarge the image, it does wonders for the lesson.
Make network compatibility job 1 and the display options second priority.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 312.6' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 312.6'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 312.6' rel='nofollow'>Safari 312.6</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>As a teacher, I agree we need  an education mac. You are almost on target with your article of 6-7. Leave the optical drive in. Make it a super drive so the kids can burn cd / dvd of projects and play them at school or at home. I would also like to see a port to connect computer to TV or to connect computer to projector device. Many classrooms have ONE computer. If you can project or enlarge the image, it does wonders for the lesson.<br />
Make network compatibility job 1 and the display options second priority.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2006/06/the-case-for-an-educational-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-123</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 15:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure about cheap Apple displays.  The 20&quot; Apple display is gorgeous, but at $799 I didn&#039;t even consider it for a second when display-shopping for my G4 Mini and ancient G4 PowerMac.  Both of those computers have gorgeous 19&quot; Samsung LCDs connected by VGA cable (PowerMac) and DVI (Mini), both have terrific image quality, and I got the pair for $600, $200 LESS than a single 20&quot; Apple display.  One of the Samsungs is even silver, and looks great next to the Mac Mini.  Apple just can&#039;t compete at that price point.

That said, the Mini is a terrific computer for education and business use.  My G4 Mini is used by a lawyer in my firm as her primary computer.  It is more than fast enough for everything she does, looks terrific and has its formerly PC-only user seriously considering a Mac for her home.  Sounds like just what Apple intended with this model.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 417.9.3' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 417.9.3'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 417.9.3' rel='nofollow'>Safari 417.9.3</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>Not sure about cheap Apple displays.  The 20&#8243; Apple display is gorgeous, but at $799 I didn&#8217;t even consider it for a second when display-shopping for my G4 Mini and ancient G4 PowerMac.  Both of those computers have gorgeous 19&#8243; Samsung LCDs connected by VGA cable (PowerMac) and DVI (Mini), both have terrific image quality, and I got the pair for $600, $200 LESS than a single 20&#8243; Apple display.  One of the Samsungs is even silver, and looks great next to the Mac Mini.  Apple just can&#8217;t compete at that price point.</p>
<p>That said, the Mini is a terrific computer for education and business use.  My G4 Mini is used by a lawyer in my firm as her primary computer.  It is more than fast enough for everything she does, looks terrific and has its formerly PC-only user seriously considering a Mac for her home.  Sounds like just what Apple intended with this model.</p>
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		<title>By: Stanley Wasserman</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2006/06/the-case-for-an-educational-mac/comment-page-1/#comment-122</link>
		<dc:creator>Stanley Wasserman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 15:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The issue is not that the Mac product line is priced too high -- it&#039;s not. The price that Apple gives educational institutions is very low and quite resonable. The real problem is: Why are schools strapped for cash?

The answer is that, as a nation, we don&#039;t really care about the public education of our children. We claim there&#039;s no money. Want to know why?

The interest, the INTEREST, on the national debt, we paid last last year, was over 315 billion dollars. In other words, the minimum payment on the national credit card was greater than all the money spent on everything else (except defense, social security, and medicare) -- combined. That&#039;s over 6 times the budget of the Department of Education.

The numbers don&#039;t lie. We&#039;d rather spend money on sports betting, beer, needless military adventures, over-eating, etc, etc. and are perfectly content to have our students ranked at the bottom of the rest of the world. So don&#039;t look to Apple and other companies to make up for our lack of vision.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 417.9.3' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 417.9.3'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 417.9.3' rel='nofollow'>Safari 417.9.3</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>The issue is not that the Mac product line is priced too high &#8212; it&#8217;s not. The price that Apple gives educational institutions is very low and quite resonable. The real problem is: Why are schools strapped for cash?</p>
<p>The answer is that, as a nation, we don&#8217;t really care about the public education of our children. We claim there&#8217;s no money. Want to know why?</p>
<p>The interest, the INTEREST, on the national debt, we paid last last year, was over 315 billion dollars. In other words, the minimum payment on the national credit card was greater than all the money spent on everything else (except defense, social security, and medicare) &#8212; combined. That&#8217;s over 6 times the budget of the Department of Education.</p>
<p>The numbers don&#8217;t lie. We&#8217;d rather spend money on sports betting, beer, needless military adventures, over-eating, etc, etc. and are perfectly content to have our students ranked at the bottom of the rest of the world. So don&#8217;t look to Apple and other companies to make up for our lack of vision.</p>
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		<title>By: setomi</title>
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		<dc:creator>setomi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jun 2006 14:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since schools are strapped for cash, it&#039;s likely computers will be shared rather than handed out like iBooks were.   A cheaper laptop solution (dare I say stripped down model) seems logical, especially when Apple already offers &quot;Mobile Labs&quot; to the education market.  Mobility allows freedom to use any classroom as the lab.  This would be a little harder to do with a mini iMac or Mac mini.

Yes, a 15&quot; or 17&quot; LCD would definately help.  Price is a key factor because you wouldnt want the price of Mac mini +  LCD to be too close to the cost of a laptop (mac or PC).   Otherwise, you might as well get the laptop.   

I doubt that Apple would push Mac mini on education.   Although the Mac mini is the cheapest solution, it&#039;s also the most wired one and allows for a mashup of various hardware.   It &quot;works&quot; but looks ugly and awkward with using PC keyboard, external speakers, etc.   Not the impression I would want to leave on young minds.

Miniature iMac?  YES great idea.  Again, the price must be cheaper than a laptop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/ie.png' title='Internet Explorer 6.0' style='border:0px;' alt='Internet Explorer 6.0'/> <a href='http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/ie/default.mspx' title='Internet Explorer 6.0' rel='nofollow'>Internet Explorer 6.0</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/win.png' title='Windows XP' style='border:0px;' alt='Windows XP'/> Windows XP<p>Since schools are strapped for cash, it&#8217;s likely computers will be shared rather than handed out like iBooks were.   A cheaper laptop solution (dare I say stripped down model) seems logical, especially when Apple already offers &#8220;Mobile Labs&#8221; to the education market.  Mobility allows freedom to use any classroom as the lab.  This would be a little harder to do with a mini iMac or Mac mini.</p>
<p>Yes, a 15&#8243; or 17&#8243; LCD would definately help.  Price is a key factor because you wouldnt want the price of Mac mini +  LCD to be too close to the cost of a laptop (mac or PC).   Otherwise, you might as well get the laptop.   </p>
<p>I doubt that Apple would push Mac mini on education.   Although the Mac mini is the cheapest solution, it&#8217;s also the most wired one and allows for a mashup of various hardware.   It &#8220;works&#8221; but looks ugly and awkward with using PC keyboard, external speakers, etc.   Not the impression I would want to leave on young minds.</p>
<p>Miniature iMac?  YES great idea.  Again, the price must be cheaper than a laptop.</p>
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