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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2006/08/the-tech-support-report-getting-good-service-possible-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1092</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 15:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yesterday I had a very successful encounter with AppleCare. After upgrading to Tiger, Safari displayed an error message on startup. I had everything prepared, error message displayed, serial number at hand through Apple Menue &gt; About This Mac &gt; More Info... , ect. The service person had me go through a reasonable sequence and then had to do some research. It turned out to be an out of date third party add in, Acid Search. Having AppleCare was the key. I paid for it and had not used it in almost a year an a half.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 419.3' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 419.3'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 419.3' rel='nofollow'>Safari 419.3</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>Yesterday I had a very successful encounter with AppleCare. After upgrading to Tiger, Safari displayed an error message on startup. I had everything prepared, error message displayed, serial number at hand through Apple Menue &gt; About This Mac &gt; More Info&#8230; , ect. The service person had me go through a reasonable sequence and then had to do some research. It turned out to be an out of date third party add in, Acid Search. Having AppleCare was the key. I paid for it and had not used it in almost a year an a half.</p>
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		<title>By: gopher</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2006/08/the-tech-support-report-getting-good-service-possible-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1090</link>
		<dc:creator>gopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 12:51:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Verizon&#039;s support.  An oxymoron in of itself.  One time I had to setup a customer&#039;s internet service.   I looked at how to do the DSL support with the provided software and hardware.  Tried with the Mac&#039;s own software, and it still didn&#039;t work.  So while at the customer site I took the plunge and called Verizon.   Worked with the person there, and he finally couldn&#039;t solve the problem, and passed me on to Mac tech support.  Took half an hour on hold and finally got through to someone who knew his stuff.   It was a hidden button somewhere to enable the PPPoE access on the router they provided.     All in all I was on the phone for 2 hours!

Thankfully the next time when encountering this issue I decided to call Verizon right off.  It was a different router, and actually had some decent Mac software.    The only thing that wasn&#039;t clear was what password Verizon had assigned PPPoE.  It was preassigned within the software Verizon provided to something that was good.   And they were able to verify this within 10 minutes.    

Your mileage may vary, but Verizon now being a bigger company than the company which founded it (AT&amp;T), and my owning stock in the company, is a mixed bag.  Sometimes good.  Sometimes a pain in the neck to deal with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/ie.png' title='Internet Explorer 6.0' style='border:0px;' alt='Internet Explorer 6.0'/> <a href='http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/ie/default.mspx' title='Internet Explorer 6.0' rel='nofollow'>Internet Explorer 6.0</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/win.png' title='Windows 2000' style='border:0px;' alt='Windows 2000'/> Windows 2000<p>Verizon&#8217;s support.  An oxymoron in of itself.  One time I had to setup a customer&#8217;s internet service.   I looked at how to do the DSL support with the provided software and hardware.  Tried with the Mac&#8217;s own software, and it still didn&#8217;t work.  So while at the customer site I took the plunge and called Verizon.   Worked with the person there, and he finally couldn&#8217;t solve the problem, and passed me on to Mac tech support.  Took half an hour on hold and finally got through to someone who knew his stuff.   It was a hidden button somewhere to enable the PPPoE access on the router they provided.     All in all I was on the phone for 2 hours!</p>
<p>Thankfully the next time when encountering this issue I decided to call Verizon right off.  It was a different router, and actually had some decent Mac software.    The only thing that wasn&#8217;t clear was what password Verizon had assigned PPPoE.  It was preassigned within the software Verizon provided to something that was good.   And they were able to verify this within 10 minutes.    </p>
<p>Your mileage may vary, but Verizon now being a bigger company than the company which founded it (AT&amp;T), and my owning stock in the company, is a mixed bag.  Sometimes good.  Sometimes a pain in the neck to deal with.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2006/08/the-tech-support-report-getting-good-service-possible-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1089</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 05:22:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the support ordeal may finally be over (looks that way).  From Customer Relations I moved up to Executive Relations, where another replacement MacBook was arranged.  The difference is that I was able to go to a local Apple Store and thoroughly inspect the new machine before taking it home.  I guess it pays to be pushy, as I finally have a MacBook that runs at a semi-reasonably temperature (between 60 and 75 C depending on load), has an excellent screen and no case or touchpad button issues.  The &quot;Moo&quot; is still there when it hits 64 C, which is about what everyone else is reporting, but is much quieter on this one than on the last two.

What a difference production variance can make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/firefox.png' title='Firefox 1.5.0.6' style='border:0px;' alt='Firefox 1.5.0.6'/> <a href='http://mozilla.org' title='Firefox 1.5.0.6' rel='nofollow'>Firefox 1.5.0.6</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>Well, the support ordeal may finally be over (looks that way).  From Customer Relations I moved up to Executive Relations, where another replacement MacBook was arranged.  The difference is that I was able to go to a local Apple Store and thoroughly inspect the new machine before taking it home.  I guess it pays to be pushy, as I finally have a MacBook that runs at a semi-reasonably temperature (between 60 and 75 C depending on load), has an excellent screen and no case or touchpad button issues.  The &#8220;Moo&#8221; is still there when it hits 64 C, which is about what everyone else is reporting, but is much quieter on this one than on the last two.</p>
<p>What a difference production variance can make.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob K</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2006/08/the-tech-support-report-getting-good-service-possible-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1088</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Aug 2006 01:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Calling for support is always a pain, but an approach worth trying is this; Reiterate what you are told, with a bottom-line conclusion.  Example; &quot;So what you are saying is Apple considers defective products normal, and Apple customers should expect problems.&quot;  Or &quot;Are you saying Apple policy is dissatisfied customers?&quot;

Always remain polite, but playing offense can at least makes it a tiny bit fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 419.3' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 419.3'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 419.3' rel='nofollow'>Safari 419.3</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>Calling for support is always a pain, but an approach worth trying is this; Reiterate what you are told, with a bottom-line conclusion.  Example; &#8220;So what you are saying is Apple considers defective products normal, and Apple customers should expect problems.&#8221;  Or &#8220;Are you saying Apple policy is dissatisfied customers?&#8221;</p>
<p>Always remain polite, but playing offense can at least makes it a tiny bit fun!</p>
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		<title>By: lisa</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2006/08/the-tech-support-report-getting-good-service-possible-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1087</link>
		<dc:creator>lisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I asked my webhosting provider to switch servers (from Windows to Unix).   My email requests just went into a black hole.  Eventually I escalated my requests and that resolved the issue right away.   This particular company used to give good service.   But it may have over grown it&#039;s support resources.   

On another occasion, I tried to kill an old free Tripod or Yahoo website I had.  All that was on it was my son&#039;s birth picture and announcements.   It was time to get rid of it but I could not log in for some reason.  No email or phone# to contact at all.   So, I was forced to just let it sit there until it got auto deleted from non-use.  Imagine what would happen if someone got a hold of your personal info and posted on a website somewhere?   Scary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/ie.png' title='Internet Explorer 6.0' style='border:0px;' alt='Internet Explorer 6.0'/> <a href='http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/ie/default.mspx' title='Internet Explorer 6.0' rel='nofollow'>Internet Explorer 6.0</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/win.png' title='Windows XP' style='border:0px;' alt='Windows XP'/> Windows XP<p>I asked my webhosting provider to switch servers (from Windows to Unix).   My email requests just went into a black hole.  Eventually I escalated my requests and that resolved the issue right away.   This particular company used to give good service.   But it may have over grown it&#8217;s support resources.   </p>
<p>On another occasion, I tried to kill an old free Tripod or Yahoo website I had.  All that was on it was my son&#8217;s birth picture and announcements.   It was time to get rid of it but I could not log in for some reason.  No email or phone# to contact at all.   So, I was forced to just let it sit there until it got auto deleted from non-use.  Imagine what would happen if someone got a hold of your personal info and posted on a website somewhere?   Scary.</p>
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		<title>By: virginia</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2006/08/the-tech-support-report-getting-good-service-possible-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1086</link>
		<dc:creator>virginia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 17:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should check out Apple support forum for .Mac email issues.   Recently there&#039;s been a lot of downtime (only for some users) with no help from Apple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/ie.png' title='Internet Explorer 6.0' style='border:0px;' alt='Internet Explorer 6.0'/> <a href='http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/ie/default.mspx' title='Internet Explorer 6.0' rel='nofollow'>Internet Explorer 6.0</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/win.png' title='Windows XP' style='border:0px;' alt='Windows XP'/> Windows XP<p>You should check out Apple support forum for .Mac email issues.   Recently there&#8217;s been a lot of downtime (only for some users) with no help from Apple.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2006/08/the-tech-support-report-getting-good-service-possible-or-not/comment-page-1/#comment-1082</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just went through that ringer with Apple on a hot-running Mooing MacBook.  After the second week in the depot for repair I finally got in touch with Customer Relations, which threw in an extra battery for my trouble.

Sadly it didn&#039;t end there.  The machine arrived after a total of 18 days unrepaired, and to make matters worse, somewhere along the way the repair depot incorrectly reassembled my computer so that now the trackpad button didn&#039;t work.  Back to Customer Relations, this time for a replacement MacBook.

More delays on their processing the replacement meant another &quot;compensation&quot; from Apple, but sadly I&#039;m still stuck in MacBook limbo as the replacement unit has problems of its own.  The colors on the screen are washed-out (yes, I&#039;ve played with the color balance and can compensate to a limited degree) and it still makes the moo sound.  That was yesterday.

Today its back to Customer Relations, who knows what the result will be.  At this point I&#039;m seriously soured on MacBook quality control, which is sad as I bought this to replace both 12&quot; and 15&quot; PowerBooks, neither of which can be replaced anymore.  I love the power and ergonomics on the MacBook, but I&#039;m really not sure that I can trust another, and may just ask for my money back and try my luck with another vender or try to find a leftover PowerBook and go back to the slow lane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 419.3' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 419.3'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 419.3' rel='nofollow'>Safari 419.3</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>I just went through that ringer with Apple on a hot-running Mooing MacBook.  After the second week in the depot for repair I finally got in touch with Customer Relations, which threw in an extra battery for my trouble.</p>
<p>Sadly it didn&#8217;t end there.  The machine arrived after a total of 18 days unrepaired, and to make matters worse, somewhere along the way the repair depot incorrectly reassembled my computer so that now the trackpad button didn&#8217;t work.  Back to Customer Relations, this time for a replacement MacBook.</p>
<p>More delays on their processing the replacement meant another &#8220;compensation&#8221; from Apple, but sadly I&#8217;m still stuck in MacBook limbo as the replacement unit has problems of its own.  The colors on the screen are washed-out (yes, I&#8217;ve played with the color balance and can compensate to a limited degree) and it still makes the moo sound.  That was yesterday.</p>
<p>Today its back to Customer Relations, who knows what the result will be.  At this point I&#8217;m seriously soured on MacBook quality control, which is sad as I bought this to replace both 12&#8243; and 15&#8243; PowerBooks, neither of which can be replaced anymore.  I love the power and ergonomics on the MacBook, but I&#8217;m really not sure that I can trust another, and may just ask for my money back and try my luck with another vender or try to find a leftover PowerBook and go back to the slow lane.</p>
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