Well apple seems to think it’s something in the update 10.6.9 and up that is incompatable with my computer.I agree this doesn’t really make sense but we can’t figure out why all runs fine in 10.6.8. Are you saying that I’ll still have problems then with the Leopard upgrade and would need to erase my hard drive first? If I did and did a backup doesn’t the problem still exist somewhere in some folder then in the saved harddrive. I’m sorry to sound so dense, I’m not very good when it comes to the mechanical/technical aspects of all this. Appreciate all your help!

Yes. ACL permissions issues were reported by one person I know. Whatever is causing them I don’t know, because I can’t test these issues across the country, as he is California, while I’m in Maryland.

I’d really like to know why someone has had difficulties with these.

Suggest to your friend that they contact the authors of SuperDuper!. They are quite good about addressing any problems and it’s important that the latest version be used in any case.

Peace,
Gene

Yes. ACL permissions issues were reported by one person I know. Whatever is causing them I don’t know, because I can’t test these issues across the country, as he is California, while I’m in Maryland. I’d really like to know why someone has had difficulties with these.

Leopard has no problems here. However, if you are upgrading because you have a problem, that’s not the way to go. Problems never disappear when you update your operating system. You must first get your system to be healthy before you upgrade.

Upgrades are there to add new features, and new compatibility for new software. I explain this and more on my FAQ http://www.macmaps.com/upgradefaq.html

Superduper works great in Tiger.

In Leopard some versions have difficulty with permissions, but thankfully Time Machine works great too.

Whatever you do, test to make sure your backup is working before going ahead with the upgrade.

Don’t use the help boards as an excuse to believe any operating system is problematic. They are after all hospital wards.

Most people have no problems with the operating systems.

Thanks for your update. Understand, though, that the latest SuperDuper!, version 2.5, ought to be fully Leopard compliant. According to the publisher: “2.5 is fully compatible with Leopard, and produces fully bootable backups of the newest version of OS X.”

Have you heard otherwise?

Peace,
Gene

Leopard has no problems here. However, if you are upgrading because you have a problem, that’s not the way to go. Problems never disappear when you update your operating system. You must first get your system to be healthy before you upgrade. Upgrades are there to add new features, and new compatibility for new software. I explain this and more on my FAQ http://www.macmaps.com/upgradefaq.html

Superduper works great in Tiger. In Leopard some versions have difficulty with permissions, but thankfully Time Machine works great too. Whatever you do, test to make sure your backup is working before going ahead with the upgrade. Don’t use the help boards as an excuse to believe any operating system is problematic. They are after all hospital wards. Most people have no problems with the operating systems.

Well apple agreed that it must be something with the update so after speaking with them for 4 days in a row they’ve decided to send me out an update to Leopard free of charge. I have to say this was a very fair solution considering they can’t explain why the update does this to me every time either. I do want to start doing full backups though, I”ve heard SuperDuper is the way to go? I have a LaCie external harddrive. How does SuperDuper work, is it easy to use? Ã…lso, do people have a lot of problems with Leopard? What should I expect from that now?

Thanks!

I had no problems with my mac tiger until I downloaded the software update which I tunes demanded to run it. Since updating to 10.4.11, every time I try to click on my home folder, it crashes. Clicking on my applications folder does the same. I’ve tried archive and reinstall with and without keeping user preferences and all the little tricks I’ve read about to no avail. I need I tunes to work because that’s how I add movies and music to my ipod but I can’t stand the system running like this. To access my applications I have to press down and hold on the folder I have in my dock. Clicking on the folder in my doc won’t launch anything. Likewise, clicking on the homefolder causes my window to flash and disappear and a new finder window opens. I HATE THIS

It seems to me that the people on these forums know more about fixing macs then the people at apple that you get on the phone, which is pretty disheartening. All they can suggest is reinstall.

It isn’t always that way. I’ve gotten to talk to some geniuses who genuinely know what is wrong. But as a generic response a reinstall teaches all people the necessity of backing up. http://www.macmaps.com/backup.html

Cause if you haven’t had a backup, some reinstalls will leave you with no data. Troubleshooting invariably can have solutions that may require a complete recovery of your backup. The true _experts_ know the finite methods of avoiding a reinstall, but even those can fail to the point your own recourse is a reinstall and recovery from backup. Apple’s solution of the reinstall can be a quicker solution, but it doesn’t teach you what went wrong. If you really want to know what went wrong and are willing to troubleshoot, then ask the experts. BTW I’m a brody on Apple Discussions.

I had no problems with my mac tiger until I downloaded the software update which I tunes demanded to run it. Since updating to 10.4.11, every time I try to click on my home folder, it crashes. Clicking on my applications folder does the same. I’ve tried archive and reinstall with and without keeping user preferences and all the little tricks I’ve read about to no avail. I need I tunes to work because that’s how I add movies and music to my ipod but I can’t stand the system running like this. To access my applications I have to press down and hold on the folder I have in my dock. Clicking on the folder in my doc won’t launch anything. Likewise, clicking on the homefolder causes my window to flash and disappear and a new finder window opens. I HATE THIS

It seems to me that the people on these forums know more about fixing macs then the people at apple that you get on the phone, which is pretty disheartening. All they can suggest is reinstall.

Hi Gopher,
I have backed up my entire HOME file onto an external drive. I don’t have Filesalvage or Data Rescue, so I copies them all across to the ext drive. Do I need to back up anything else? If not, what’s the next step?
I have been told by a few people that Classic won’t work in 10.4.11. Is this correct?

Classic works in 10.4.11. It does not though work on Intel Macs and does not work in 10.5 or higher.

Booting into Mac OS 9 works in both 10.4.11 and 10.5 via Apple menu -> System Preferences -> Startup Disk if your Mac supports it.

The probably you may be running into is an INIT conflict or data damage. If you like you can e-mail me via my website guestbook, and try to isolate your problem.

Hi Gopher,
I have backed up my entire HOME file onto an external drive. I don’t have Filesalvage or Data Rescue, so I copies them all across to the ext drive. Do I need to back up anything else? If not, what’s the next step?
I have been told by a few people that Classic won’t work in 10.4.11. Is this correct?

I have recently installed 10.4.10 via disc on my iBook G4 (1.33Ghz 1.25g ram Power PC). I then updated to 10.4.11 via download. Now the classic mode won’t start up. I (unfortunately) still have some very reliable programs from my OS9 days that I still use. Any help?

Suggest you restore your backup. If you have no backup, restore with Filesalvage or Data Rescue to an external hard drive as outlined in the recover section of my FAQ

http://www.macmaps.com/backup.html

Once the recovery gets all your critical files off your existing machine, let us know, and we’ll take you to the next step.

I have recently installed 10.4.10 via disc on my iBook G4 (1.33Ghz 1.25g ram Power PC). I then updated to 10.4.11 via download. Now the classic mode won’t start up. I (unfortunately) still have some very reliable programs from my OS9 days that I still use. Any help?

I have installed my laserjet 1320 with mac os 10.4.11 and it is working but when i downloaded updaes to Os ( 131 MB) the printer stop working pls comment

I have install my laserjet 1320 with mac os 10.4.11 and it is working but when i downloaded updaes to Os ( 131 MB) the printer stop working pls comment

I just updated my Macbook(1st generation) to OS X 10.4.10 and can’t log into my system. I get pushed into Darwin/BSD. I can’t seem to figure out if its specifically related to the update or something else. There doesn’t seem to be a mention of it anywhere! This is really ridiculous! I guess archive and install back to 10.4.6!