We’ll, I am going to wait. When I left the dark side and bought my first Mac back in 2004 (iMac 17″ G5) it was already loaded with updated Panther and it worked just slick. I was so impressed at how little crashes I had compared to SE98, I really thought that Macs just worked that way all the time.

So, I pre-ordered Tiger and the day it came out, it arrived in my mailbox. I installed it and lost my wireless connection. Nothing would work and I couldn’t “Undo” the installation. US Robotics said that it was Tiger; Apple said that it was the router. Nothing worked – except one thing – dumping everything and going back to Panther after doing a fresh re-install. Thank goodness I backed-up my hard drive before. Even after a few updates – Tiger still didn’t work with my router.

So, knowing that the Tiger version I had (10.4.1) would not support my router, I waited until 10.4.4 was released, downloaded the update files (using Panther, stored them on my hard drive, and then installed Tiger and updated it off the saved downloads. It worked.

I don’t need the same hassle and won’t be buying 10.5 until it gets to the 4th or later update. We now have 3 Macs in the hosue. Will I miss something? Maybe? But then again, as the article states, I want my Macs to work first, and be productive second. I can’t be productive if it doesn’t work.

You make some good points. For some of you, there’s no sense rushing until you have a better idea what’s going to happen when you click the Install button.

Peace,
Gene

We’ll, I am going to wait. When I left the dark side and bought my first Mac back in 2004 (iMac 17″ G5) it was already loaded with updated Panther and it worked just slick. I was so impressed at how little crashes I had compared to SE98, I really thought that Macs just worked that way all the time.

So, I pre-ordered Tiger and the day it came out, it arrived in my mailbox. I installed it and lost my wireless connection. Nothing would work and I couldn’t “Undo” the installation. US Robotics said that it was Tiger; Apple said that it was the router. Nothing worked – except one thing – dumping everything and going back to Panther after doing a fresh re-install. Thank goodness I backed-up my hard drive before. Even after a few updates – Tiger still didn’t work with my router.

So, knowing that the Tiger version I had (10.4.1) would not support my router, I waited until 10.4.4 was released, downloaded the update files (using Panther, stored them on my hard drive, and then installed Tiger and updated it off the saved downloads. It worked.

I don’t need the same hassle and won’t be buying 10.5 until it gets to the 4th or later update. We now have 3 Macs in the hosue. Will I miss something? Maybe? But then again, as the article states, I want my Macs to work first, and be productive second. I can’t be productive if it doesn’t work.

What I’m going to do, if the installation disk will let me, is install Leopard on an external h. d., then boot from it. If all goes well, I have made a list of all the applications I need to get my work done. I’ll go down the list testing them. If all is well, then I’ll go ahead and install on my Mac. If something breaks, I won’t. And yes, a couple of key items are Adobe products and yes, that’s a bit scary in view of their recent foot-dragging. Way I look at it is this: it’s excusable that the developer of some utility gadget I use may need to play catchup, since he might not be able to afford registering as an official Developer. A big corporation like Adobe has no such excuse, no doubt they’ve had plenty of time to track Leopard’s development and react to any changes that affect the way their software works, so if some of their apps. break in Leopard they can’t claim to be surprised. Especially because of the prices they charge, users have a right to expect a very very swift updates.

hmmm after waiting so long there is another wait …I need Adobe products to work with Leopard first & foremost. Hope that comes quickly.

How soon till 10.5.1 on average?

We can start a new poll, but I’m going to suggest it’ll happen by December 1.

Peace,
Gene

hmmm after waiting so long there is another wait …I need Adobe products to work with Leopard first & foremost. Hope that comes quickly.

How soon till 10.5.1 on average?

I had no idea that Classic support was going away. I hope that Apple makes 9.x a free download for those of us that still have a few older Macs lying around just in case we need to access an older application.

Well, one assumes you already have a system CD for the old Mac. I don’t think Apple is going to do that right away — though you never know with them.

Peace,
Gene

I had no idea that Classic support was going away. I hope that Apple makes 9.x a free download for those of us that still have a few older Macs lying around just in case we need to access an older application.