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		<title>By: jamess</title>
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		<dc:creator>jamess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 10:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

Thanks for enlightening the topic. Some Common problem with MAC is hard disk crash, unknown bugs, Mac OS problem, or a more unexpected hardware failure. This all cause loss of data in MAC. To avoid this situation we can use Stellar phoenix &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.macintosh-data-recovery.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Data Recovery Mac&lt;/a&gt; software which recover your files, photos, music &amp; videos from almost all instances of data loss in MAC system.&#039;&#039;

Thanks</description>
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<p>Thanks for enlightening the topic. Some Common problem with MAC is hard disk crash, unknown bugs, Mac OS problem, or a more unexpected hardware failure. This all cause loss of data in MAC. To avoid this situation we can use Stellar phoenix <a href="http://www.macintosh-data-recovery.com" rel="nofollow">Data Recovery Mac</a> software which recover your files, photos, music &amp; videos from almost all instances of data loss in MAC system.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Steinberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene Steinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 03:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It&#039;s a serious bug, but it only comes into play when the User deliberately by-passes a fail safe to save time. Also, I would anticipate that it would be pretty easy for Apple programmers to fix. One could almost make an Applescript that would fix the problem.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I would presume that a properly-designed system of this sort would allow for integrity-checking, to make sure that a moved file has copied successfully before the original is deleted. I suppose that&#039;s where this setup is failing, that the file system isn&#039;t reporting the situation accurately. Oh well, we&#039;ll see how it all plays out.

Peace,
Gene</description>
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<p>I would presume that a properly-designed system of this sort would allow for integrity-checking, to make sure that a moved file has copied successfully before the original is deleted. I suppose that&#8217;s where this setup is failing, that the file system isn&#8217;t reporting the situation accurately. Oh well, we&#8217;ll see how it all plays out.</p>
<p>Peace,<br />
Gene</p>
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		<title>By: Tom B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a serious bug, but it only comes into play when the User deliberately by-passes a fail safe to save time. Also, I would anticipate that it would be pretty easy for Apple programmers to fix. One could almost make an Applescript that would fix the problem.</description>
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		<title>By: Gene Steinberg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gene Steinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I&#039;ve been a mac user for 17 years and though I know you can use the move command, I&#039;d never recommend it on anything other than small files. Furthermore, as an experienced Windows admin, I can tell you that Windows certainly suffers from the same &quot;problem&quot;.

Don&#039;t use the move function with anything you highly value, and never over a network connection. Whether it&#039;s Mac or PC, you&#039;ll regret it if you even get a network hic-up, much less a power loss. It&#039;s just as easy to copy and delete.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Thanks for the enlightenment.

The only thing that concerns me is the claim this is a long-standing bug, and why there haven&#039;t been widespread complaints up till now. All this is being used as ammunition for the &quot;Leopard is a mess&quot; brigade.

Peace,
Gene</description>
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<p>Don&#8217;t use the move function with anything you highly value, and never over a network connection. Whether it&#8217;s Mac or PC, you&#8217;ll regret it if you even get a network hic-up, much less a power loss. It&#8217;s just as easy to copy and delete.</p></blockquote>
<p>Thanks for the enlightenment.</p>
<p>The only thing that concerns me is the claim this is a long-standing bug, and why there haven&#8217;t been widespread complaints up till now. All this is being used as ammunition for the &#8220;Leopard is a mess&#8221; brigade.</p>
<p>Peace,<br />
Gene</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 16:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been a mac user for 17 years and though I know you can use the move command, I&#039;d never recommend it on anything other than small files. Furthermore, as an experienced Windows admin, I can tell you that Windows certainly suffers from the same &quot;problem&quot;.

Don&#039;t use the move function with anything you highly value, and never over a network connection. Whether it&#039;s Mac or PC, you&#039;ll regret it if you even get a network hic-up, much less a power loss. It&#039;s just as easy to copy and delete.</description>
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<p>Don&#8217;t use the move function with anything you highly value, and never over a network connection. Whether it&#8217;s Mac or PC, you&#8217;ll regret it if you even get a network hic-up, much less a power loss. It&#8217;s just as easy to copy and delete.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 15:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, Apple should fix it quickly, but as a Mac user since 1988, I never even noticed the &quot;move&quot; function.  I have always used copy and then delete. It never occured to me to do it any differently. 

The first time I ever saw &quot;move&quot; was on a Windows machine, so it makes me wonder if &quot;switchers&quot; are the ones who have the problem since they tend to try to do things the Windows way even after switching.</description>
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<p>The first time I ever saw &#8220;move&#8221; was on a Windows machine, so it makes me wonder if &#8220;switchers&#8221; are the ones who have the problem since they tend to try to do things the Windows way even after switching.</p>
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