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		<title>By: Daniel Ward</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2007/12/another-spotty-leopard-hatchet-job/comment-page-1/#comment-9014</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Leopard Server _IS_ Buggy.

The reason there are no clear-cut examples is because there are not a few clear-cut flaws that can be repeatedly demonstrated.  The system would be better classified as unstable.

I&#039;ve had to reinstall Leopard Server about 20 times in Advanced mode.   Each time, I wrote down every step I did so I could repeat it on the next re-install, avoiding the landmine that caused me to reinstall in the first place.  While it is true that many of the bugs were corrected with the patch, it only got rid of the obvious ones.

Workgroup Manager and Server admin are by far the buggiest.   Workgroup Manager will constantly give you errors and die.  Server Admin will stall and not refresh - or when you configure things incorrectly, it&#039;ll down the Open Directory server, requiring a reboot (hope it comes back up).   Try playing around with signing your own SSL certificate, installing it as a default system certificate, and adding your computer as a trusted host on the network ..  crazy.

I had the Advanced set up working well and I had 2 client machines (within my home) connecting to it.  Whenever one of my kids (who are managed by Parental Controls) logs into the system, it made non-parental controlled individuals unable to log in - requiring the client to restart.   I&#039;d have to reboot the server one or two times a week because it wouldn&#039;t authenticate anybody at all, despite everything looking fine - open directory crashed.  Restarting the process didn&#039;t seem to help.  Only restarting the computer.  I could only log on with local accounts.

If you aren&#039;t running Advanced Setup - it isn&#039;t any picnic as well.   Leopard is taking care of nearly all things in the background for you, leaving very little configurability.  If it worked fine, I would say that it would be a nice set up for smaller companies.   The fact is - even the non-Advanced setups don&#039;t work.   Calendar server produces errors when you try to access it, firewall rules seem to be dynamically updated that cut off services you&#039;ve previously allowed ... and lets not even talk about Jabber Server ..  I&#039;ve never had that working - period.

If this message seems like one large rant ..  believe me - its the tip of the ice berg.  I used to be very pro-Apple .. but lately they&#039;ve been abandoning the path to greatness, focusing more on being the &quot;digital-hub&quot; for the average household - I find myself pricing out windows server and it saddens me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 523.10.6' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 523.10.6'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 523.10.6' rel='nofollow'>Safari 523.10.6</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>Leopard Server _IS_ Buggy.</p>
<p>The reason there are no clear-cut examples is because there are not a few clear-cut flaws that can be repeatedly demonstrated.  The system would be better classified as unstable.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve had to reinstall Leopard Server about 20 times in Advanced mode.   Each time, I wrote down every step I did so I could repeat it on the next re-install, avoiding the landmine that caused me to reinstall in the first place.  While it is true that many of the bugs were corrected with the patch, it only got rid of the obvious ones.</p>
<p>Workgroup Manager and Server admin are by far the buggiest.   Workgroup Manager will constantly give you errors and die.  Server Admin will stall and not refresh &#8211; or when you configure things incorrectly, it&#8217;ll down the Open Directory server, requiring a reboot (hope it comes back up).   Try playing around with signing your own SSL certificate, installing it as a default system certificate, and adding your computer as a trusted host on the network ..  crazy.</p>
<p>I had the Advanced set up working well and I had 2 client machines (within my home) connecting to it.  Whenever one of my kids (who are managed by Parental Controls) logs into the system, it made non-parental controlled individuals unable to log in &#8211; requiring the client to restart.   I&#8217;d have to reboot the server one or two times a week because it wouldn&#8217;t authenticate anybody at all, despite everything looking fine &#8211; open directory crashed.  Restarting the process didn&#8217;t seem to help.  Only restarting the computer.  I could only log on with local accounts.</p>
<p>If you aren&#8217;t running Advanced Setup &#8211; it isn&#8217;t any picnic as well.   Leopard is taking care of nearly all things in the background for you, leaving very little configurability.  If it worked fine, I would say that it would be a nice set up for smaller companies.   The fact is &#8211; even the non-Advanced setups don&#8217;t work.   Calendar server produces errors when you try to access it, firewall rules seem to be dynamically updated that cut off services you&#8217;ve previously allowed &#8230; and lets not even talk about Jabber Server ..  I&#8217;ve never had that working &#8211; period.</p>
<p>If this message seems like one large rant ..  believe me &#8211; its the tip of the ice berg.  I used to be very pro-Apple .. but lately they&#8217;ve been abandoning the path to greatness, focusing more on being the &#8220;digital-hub&#8221; for the average household &#8211; I find myself pricing out windows server and it saddens me.</p>
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		<title>By: Louis Wheeler</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2007/12/another-spotty-leopard-hatchet-job/comment-page-1/#comment-8563</link>
		<dc:creator>Louis Wheeler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I see is happening with Leopard is fundamental. Apple jacked up the GUI and slipped a new 64 bit foundation under it. That, in five years, will result in leaving 32 bit software behind, including the Carbon API&#039;s. 

The Carbon APIs were just a stopgap ten years ago; they were a bridge from MacOS 9 to Mac OSX (NeXTstep) programming. I&#039;ve seen some amazing footage on YouTube of Steve Jobs demonstrating in 1995 what NeXTstep could do on hardware a tenth as fast as today&#039;s.

Then, you add in new developments such as Core Animation and ZFS. Fundamental changes are not sexy, but they do allow enhanced possibilities. 

Think of it this way, When the NeXT engineers took over Apple&#039;s software development in 1997 they were forced to make a wide detour from the path they wanted to take. Rhapsody was a failure; the legacy programmers on Apple computers balked at totally re-writing their software. The NeXT engineers were forced to patiently gather up the old MacOS 9 programmers and users, then drag them along until those legacy users got used to the NeXTstep way of doing things. 

That detour is over now. Apple will ignore 32 bit development and gently push people into 64 bit software. Apple will force prople to use Xcode. I understand that 64 bit software will even make up for deficiencies in Intel&#039;s hardware.

The path is unblocked for great things to happen. Of course, you can&#039;t expect everyone to see that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 523.10' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 523.10'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 523.10' rel='nofollow'>Safari 523.10</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>What I see is happening with Leopard is fundamental. Apple jacked up the GUI and slipped a new 64 bit foundation under it. That, in five years, will result in leaving 32 bit software behind, including the Carbon API&#8217;s. </p>
<p>The Carbon APIs were just a stopgap ten years ago; they were a bridge from MacOS 9 to Mac OSX (NeXTstep) programming. I&#8217;ve seen some amazing footage on YouTube of Steve Jobs demonstrating in 1995 what NeXTstep could do on hardware a tenth as fast as today&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Then, you add in new developments such as Core Animation and ZFS. Fundamental changes are not sexy, but they do allow enhanced possibilities. </p>
<p>Think of it this way, When the NeXT engineers took over Apple&#8217;s software development in 1997 they were forced to make a wide detour from the path they wanted to take. Rhapsody was a failure; the legacy programmers on Apple computers balked at totally re-writing their software. The NeXT engineers were forced to patiently gather up the old MacOS 9 programmers and users, then drag them along until those legacy users got used to the NeXTstep way of doing things. </p>
<p>That detour is over now. Apple will ignore 32 bit development and gently push people into 64 bit software. Apple will force prople to use Xcode. I understand that 64 bit software will even make up for deficiencies in Intel&#8217;s hardware.</p>
<p>The path is unblocked for great things to happen. Of course, you can&#8217;t expect everyone to see that.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Barnes</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2007/12/another-spotty-leopard-hatchet-job/comment-page-1/#comment-8562</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Barnes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The headline is designed to drive traffic to the Network World website.
All of these ad-dependent websites are desperate for eyeballs. So, you may expect to see more of this behavior from all the so-called reputable sites.</description>
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All of these ad-dependent websites are desperate for eyeballs. So, you may expect to see more of this behavior from all the so-called reputable sites.</p>
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		<title>By: Gerald</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2007/12/another-spotty-leopard-hatchet-job/comment-page-1/#comment-8561</link>
		<dc:creator>Gerald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 16:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anyone who publishes a favorable review of a product they like without mentioning it&#039;s flaws is suspect, regardless of what the product is or who makes it.

The headline and blurb were &quot;attention grabbers&quot; LIKE ALL HEADLINES ARE! 

The assertion that Apache et al are old fashioned is an opinion they are entitled to, even if you and I disagree with it. 

As for improvements that are coming any-day-now, everything is vaporware until you can buy it, even things from VMWare and Parallels. Mentioning them would muddy the review of the product. 

The motives for the tone is speculative at best, but the review was hardly a hatchet job.

It reads like a grudgingly good review.  They couldn&#039;t come out and say bad things that weren&#039;t true, so they spun the good things as no-big-deal, highlighted the very real shortcomings that exist today, and failed to mention how quickly solutions were coming. 

The only companies I suspect bias from are Fast Company, The Street, and Ziff-Davis. 

The first two throw out glowing reviews and/or hatchet jobs to manipulate the stock prices of the companies they follow. This is not limited to tech. 

The third, Ziff-Davis (C-net, ZD.net, TWiT, etc.), lists as it&#039;s mission statement to promote and protect the interest of it&#039;s advertisers and sponsors. 

http://news.speeple.com/mattmcalister.com/2007/05/03/ziff-davis-sells-its-mission-statement.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 523.12' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 523.12'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 523.12' rel='nofollow'>Safari 523.12</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>Anyone who publishes a favorable review of a product they like without mentioning it&#8217;s flaws is suspect, regardless of what the product is or who makes it.</p>
<p>The headline and blurb were &#8220;attention grabbers&#8221; LIKE ALL HEADLINES ARE! </p>
<p>The assertion that Apache et al are old fashioned is an opinion they are entitled to, even if you and I disagree with it. </p>
<p>As for improvements that are coming any-day-now, everything is vaporware until you can buy it, even things from VMWare and Parallels. Mentioning them would muddy the review of the product. </p>
<p>The motives for the tone is speculative at best, but the review was hardly a hatchet job.</p>
<p>It reads like a grudgingly good review.  They couldn&#8217;t come out and say bad things that weren&#8217;t true, so they spun the good things as no-big-deal, highlighted the very real shortcomings that exist today, and failed to mention how quickly solutions were coming. </p>
<p>The only companies I suspect bias from are Fast Company, The Street, and Ziff-Davis. </p>
<p>The first two throw out glowing reviews and/or hatchet jobs to manipulate the stock prices of the companies they follow. This is not limited to tech. </p>
<p>The third, Ziff-Davis (C-net, ZD.net, TWiT, etc.), lists as it&#8217;s mission statement to promote and protect the interest of it&#8217;s advertisers and sponsors. </p>
<p><a href="http://news.speeple.com/mattmcalister.com/2007/05/03/ziff-davis-sells-its-mission-statement.htm" rel="nofollow">http://news.speeple.com/mattmcalister.com/2007/05/03/ziff-davis-sells-its-mission-statement.htm</a></p>
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