I upgraded from 10.4.11 to 10.5 in a last ditch attempt to cure the kernel panic every single time I tried to wake up my G5 2.0Ghz ppc (model 7,3; Boot ROM Version: 5.2.4f1). I believe I have the correct firmware, I’ve tested my 3GB of RAM and I’ve unplugged peripherals. It didn’t solve the problem however and though I’m not convinced a completely clean install will solve my dilemma it seems the only option left to me. I really don’t feel inclined to do this at the moment as I’m quite busy with work, so it leads me to ask has anyone else had this grief and know a simple solution before I am forced to embark on said disc/data exodus?

I have Leopard 10.5.2, and frontrow doesn’t work. I’ve been using Leopard for a few months and being a Windows guy myself, I’ve found that there are performance issues and crash issues just like Windows Vista. I’ve had vista since it came out and will admit to the problems. But, i’ve had a clean install since February with very few problems. I’m still in the “getting used to” stage with Leopard, but overall, I can’t say I’m totally floored by any kind of great performance/stability differences.

In my case I feel leopard slower and applications more prone to fail. I am not talking about ITunes, IChat or IPhoto, but about real productivity applications.

I also feel that Leopard is more memory hungry than Tiger.

And about disk space, my Tiger installation is roughly 2Gb, where Leopard is about 6-7Gb, after deleting plenty of unuseful stuff. I have three partitions with three Tiger’s / Leopard’s installed, so this gets important for me, since I have a MacBookPro, and Leopard means 15 Gb space loss.

Besides, Leopard has some annoying bugs regarding keyboard and mouse after wake from sleep that I can’t tolerate. Made me lost some €.

That’s why I downgraded to Tiger (10.4.11) and things are really stable and fast again.

All this comments are for 10.5.1, I suppose under 10.5.2 things would be better.

Anyway… I am waiting until 10.5.5 to give Leopard a second chance.

On my Dual 125GHz G4 tower, Leopard takes about 5 minutes to start and get to the login screen; Tiger used to take about 2 minutes. I get the initial gray screen for about a minute or so, then it sits on the blue screen for 2-3 minutes, before showing the login screen; don’t know what’s going on under the hood–lots of disk activity.

I have 2GB RAM on this machine and once it’s logged in, the OS performs at about the same speed as Tiger; haven’t noticed any slow-down or speed-up compared to 10.4.x.

I did a reformat of the drive before doing a clean install of Leopard, then applied the combo patch from a disk image (downloaded from Apple).

Anyone have similar issues with slow startups? solutions?

Thanks,
raj…

I have MacBook Pro 2.2 (Santa Rosa) as well and I do like Leopard. But start-up, as many have already experienced, takes significantly longer than with Tiger. With Tiger it was just a matter of seconds rather than a minute or so. Also, starting up apps after reboot takes a bit too long… So I do feel leopard is slower, especially after the reboot.

Give it a little more time after startup. Apps should open at a normal rate then. As to a longer startup period, well, the Macs I have now had Leopard preloaded, so I have no experience with prior OS’s. However, the boot time is not a significant issue unless it takes far more than a minute or two.

Peace,
Gene

I have MacBook Pro 2.2 (Santa Rosa) as well and I do like Leopard. But start-up, as many have already experienced, takes significantly longer than with Tiger. With Tiger it was just a matter of seconds rather than a minute or so. Also, starting up apps after reboot takes a bit too long… So I do feel leopard is slower, especially after the reboot.

have a new MBP Penryn 2.4GHz /2GB RAM/200Gb HDD Leopard is ok but only thing i dont like about is that it lags USB/bluetooth mouses, it’s kind a latency, from i start to move mouse and cursor starts to move a bit later. Installed windows on VMware and there is no lag. On dedicated windows machine also no lag. A bit of a problem here cause usb midi keyboard lags too.

I have a 17″ macbook pro, 2.16 GHz, 2GB memory. I recently upgraded to Leopard (clean install) and it takes forever to boot up once I login. I mean…really loooooong. It’s driving me nuts. Once it’s up, all is good – it’s just this eternity waiting to get going.

I’ve never had a mac with this boot-lag. Bummer.

My experience w/ leopard on my mbp (from upgrade from tiger) is the following:

1. something’s wrong w/ the airport. i used to connect to cafe’s internet wifi fine, but now, leopard has issues. sometimes, it just doesn’t even find the network. my pc friends don’ t have this problem. my tiger had no airport issues.

2. it takes dang long to boot up on leopard. also, there is some initial lag when first trying to open files/apps after a reboot. i’d say it’s about 75% of the bootup speed of tiger. (subjective measurement).

but all in all, I like leopard, but #1 really bothers me. even after a reboot, airport still has issues and can’t find the public wifi network.

Your description is missing a few details, which may help.

1. What kind of Mac is this?

2. Which version of AirPort?

Also note that Leopard might seem slower when Time Machine is running.

But bootup speed isn’t significant, unless it’s monumentally longer. Did you install the 10.5.2 and Graphics updates?

Peace,
Gene

My experience w/ leopard on my mbp (from upgrade from tiger) is the following:

1. something’s wrong w/ the airport. i used to connect to cafe’s internet wifi fine, but now, leopard has issues. sometimes, it just doesn’t even find the network. my pc friends don’ t have this problem. my tiger had no airport issues.

2. it takes dang long to boot up on leopard. also, there is some initial lag when first trying to open files/apps after a reboot. i’d say it’s about 75% of the bootup speed of tiger. (subjective measurement).

but all in all, I like leopard, but #1 really bothers me. even after a reboot, airport still has issues and can’t find the public wifi network.

My G4 17 inch Powerbook has had nothing but trouble. This has definitely been my worst experience to date with upgrading a computer. My computer is older. I went from Panther to Leopard. However I have 1GB of RAM and a 1.5GHz processing speed and right now I can barely type my computer is moving so slowly.

Leopard hour glasses for me and Tiger almost never did!

Leopard feels really sluggish to me compared to what I used to have. Tiger really screamed. I went from a first gen 1.85 GHz G5 SINGLE PROCESSOR to the new 8 core MacPro and I feel that I have to wait a lot from start up through using my basic apps. On the other hand, so far it’s been really stable

Leopard takes longer to start up. But you’ll get the best performance from your Mac Pro if you maximize memory. The standard configurations come with 2GB RAM. Double it. Triple it. Memory throughput is measurably higher at each increment.

One good supplier is Other World Computing (OWC). They have Apple-approved memory at a half to a third the price of Apple’s own, and they use similar suppliers.

Peace,
Gene

Leopard feels really sluggish to me compared to what I used to have. Tiger really screamed. I went from a first gen 1.85 GHz G5 SINGLE PROCESSOR to the new 8 core MacPro and I feel that I have to wait a lot from start up through using my basic apps. On the other hand, so far it’s been really stable

My ole iBook G4 933MHz with upgraded memory to 1GB PC2700 DDR
and with Ati Radeon 9200 32MBVram
Feels just fast as the 10.4 OS
I haven’t had any problems till today
I usually connect me iBook to TV and play Encoded to Divx and Xvid movies
with .srt subtitles without any problems!

I use me machine for the net, Mail, Office, Movies, Music, Iphone fooling around with JB’s and stuff
I’m cool…