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	<title>Comments on: The iPhone 3.0 Report: Let the Lame Reviews Begin</title>
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		<title>By: Gene Steinberg</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2009/06/the-iphone-3-0-report-let-the-lame-reviews-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-14400</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene Steinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But in the real world, it&#039;s a non-issue. Let &#039;em have their 99 cents. :)


Peace,
Gene</description>
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<p>Peace,<br />
Gene</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2009/06/the-iphone-3-0-report-let-the-lame-reviews-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-14399</link>
		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gene, the amount required for the earlier renewal/$199/$299 price is not $99 a month pre-tax but $99.99 and this amount is after any discounts or plan incentives. Yes, they are being finicky about the 99 cents.

Best,
John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 530.18' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 530.18'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 530.18' rel='nofollow'>Safari 530.18</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>Gene, the amount required for the earlier renewal/$199/$299 price is not $99 a month pre-tax but $99.99 and this amount is after any discounts or plan incentives. Yes, they are being finicky about the 99 cents.</p>
<p>Best,<br />
John</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2009/06/the-iphone-3-0-report-let-the-lame-reviews-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-14395</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been fun.</description>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2009/06/the-iphone-3-0-report-let-the-lame-reviews-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-14394</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those still wondering about the remote wipe activity, I&#039;ve completed one on my old Edge iPhone after the [s] arrived.

After logging into MobileMe and asking for the remote wipe, an e-mail is sent to your inbox stating that the action will be done immediately and &quot;All media, data, and settings are being permanently erased from iPhone. The process may take up to two hours, depending on your device. Please note that this process cannot be cancelled.&quot;

Within a minute of the wipe request being set, the iPhone flashes to the Apple logo and remains there for two hours while a secure wipe is performed. Once that&#039;s done, it asks to be plugged into iTunes just like if it were a new phone.

I was hoping for a skull and crossbones logo during the wipe, but nothing even remotely interesting happened during the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 530.17' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 530.17'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 530.17' rel='nofollow'>Safari 530.17</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/win.png' title='Windows XP' style='border:0px;' alt='Windows XP'/> Windows XP<p>For those still wondering about the remote wipe activity, I&#8217;ve completed one on my old Edge iPhone after the [s] arrived.</p>
<p>After logging into MobileMe and asking for the remote wipe, an e-mail is sent to your inbox stating that the action will be done immediately and &#8220;All media, data, and settings are being permanently erased from iPhone. The process may take up to two hours, depending on your device. Please note that this process cannot be cancelled.&#8221;</p>
<p>Within a minute of the wipe request being set, the iPhone flashes to the Apple logo and remains there for two hours while a secure wipe is performed. Once that&#8217;s done, it asks to be plugged into iTunes just like if it were a new phone.</p>
<p>I was hoping for a skull and crossbones logo during the wipe, but nothing even remotely interesting happened during the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Steinberg</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2009/06/the-iphone-3-0-report-let-the-lame-reviews-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-14393</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene Steinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 19:01:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re not answering my question, thank you.

This discussion is over.

But for everyone else, consider clicking on a link in Mail and having Safari open WITHOUT pressing Home first. Thank you.

Peace,
Gene</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 530.15' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 530.15'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 530.15' rel='nofollow'>Safari 530.15</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>You&#8217;re not answering my question, thank you.</p>
<p>This discussion is over.</p>
<p>But for everyone else, consider clicking on a link in Mail and having Safari open WITHOUT pressing Home first. Thank you.</p>
<p>Peace,<br />
Gene</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2009/06/the-iphone-3-0-report-let-the-lame-reviews-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-14392</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:59:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well then, I don&#039;t understand at all what your point has been. If the app is no longer open after you press the Home button, isn&#039;t pressing that button functionally equivalent to quitting the app? And if you can&#039;t launch another app except by going to one of the Home screens, isn&#039;t it true that you can&#039;t launch another app without quitting the first one? Why not explain instead of just accusing me of using double-speak?

If I may venture a face-saving (for you) explication, it seems you are upset that CNET is implying that users would have to use a &quot;quit&quot; button when there is no button labeled &quot;quit&quot;. Perhaps that was not there point--maybe they were simply using imprecise language to criticize the iPhone for not being able to run multiple apps simultaneously. But it seems to me that you&#039;re committing the same kind of factual inaccuracy if you now concede that apps are &quot;not open&quot; after pressing the Home button.

(Don&#039;t you just love non-profanity-laced web debates?)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 525.13' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 525.13'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 525.13' rel='nofollow'>Safari 525.13</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>Well then, I don&#8217;t understand at all what your point has been. If the app is no longer open after you press the Home button, isn&#8217;t pressing that button functionally equivalent to quitting the app? And if you can&#8217;t launch another app except by going to one of the Home screens, isn&#8217;t it true that you can&#8217;t launch another app without quitting the first one? Why not explain instead of just accusing me of using double-speak?</p>
<p>If I may venture a face-saving (for you) explication, it seems you are upset that CNET is implying that users would have to use a &#8220;quit&#8221; button when there is no button labeled &#8220;quit&#8221;. Perhaps that was not there point&#8211;maybe they were simply using imprecise language to criticize the iPhone for not being able to run multiple apps simultaneously. But it seems to me that you&#8217;re committing the same kind of factual inaccuracy if you now concede that apps are &#8220;not open&#8221; after pressing the Home button.</p>
<p>(Don&#8217;t you just love non-profanity-laced web debates?)</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Steinberg</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2009/06/the-iphone-3-0-report-let-the-lame-reviews-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-14391</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene Steinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apps are not open. I never said they were. We&#039;re back to double-talk again. :)


Peace,
Gene</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 530.15' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 530.15'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 530.15' rel='nofollow'>Safari 530.15</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>Apps are not open. I never said they were. We&#8217;re back to double-talk again. <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Peace,<br />
Gene</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2009/06/the-iphone-3-0-report-let-the-lame-reviews-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-14390</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:36:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Uhm, why are you asking me to look it up? I think I&#039;ve given enough real-world examples that the onus is on you to demonstrate that apps are still open after pressing the Home button -- with the exception of the Phone and iPod apps, of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 525.13' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 525.13'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 525.13' rel='nofollow'>Safari 525.13</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>Uhm, why are you asking me to look it up? I think I&#8217;ve given enough real-world examples that the onus is on you to demonstrate that apps are still open after pressing the Home button &#8212; with the exception of the Phone and iPod apps, of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Steinberg</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2009/06/the-iphone-3-0-report-let-the-lame-reviews-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-14389</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene Steinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say potato and I say potatoe. :)


In any case, can you demonstrate from the iPhone SDK that the Home button enters a &quot;quit&quot; command or is just a method to get you back to the launching area?

Peace,
Gene</description>
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<p>In any case, can you demonstrate from the iPhone SDK that the Home button enters a &#8220;quit&#8221; command or is just a method to get you back to the launching area?</p>
<p>Peace,<br />
Gene</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2009/06/the-iphone-3-0-report-let-the-lame-reviews-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-14388</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, but that obscures the issue. The fact that some apps can be re-started and take you to the last screen or state you had previously viewed doesn&#039;t change the fact that pressing the Home button quits the app -- the only exceptions being certain Apple apps and a handful that have received special dispensation from Apple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 525.13' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 525.13'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 525.13' rel='nofollow'>Safari 525.13</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>OK, but that obscures the issue. The fact that some apps can be re-started and take you to the last screen or state you had previously viewed doesn&#8217;t change the fact that pressing the Home button quits the app &#8212; the only exceptions being certain Apple apps and a handful that have received special dispensation from Apple.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Steinberg</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2009/06/the-iphone-3-0-report-let-the-lame-reviews-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-14387</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene Steinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you relaunch an app it doesn&#039;t necessarily pick up where it left off, but some do, such as AIM.

Peace,
Gene</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 530.15' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 530.15'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 530.15' rel='nofollow'>Safari 530.15</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>If you relaunch an app it doesn&#8217;t necessarily pick up where it left off, but some do, such as AIM.</p>
<p>Peace,<br />
Gene</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2009/06/the-iphone-3-0-report-let-the-lame-reviews-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-14386</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gene, you&#039;re wrong. I just launched the AP Mobile app on my iPhone, and waited for the front page to appear and update. Then I tapped the home button. I launched AP Mobile again. The iPhone did NOT resume the AP Mobile app where it left off, it restarted the app with the same waiting time and update process.

Another example: PRI is an app that streams Public Radio International live (in other words, you are not playing back individually selected, canned files or podcasts). While PRI was playing, I touched the Home button. The audio cut out immediately. If the act of touching the Home button did not quit the app, then the audio would have continued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 525.13' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 525.13'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 525.13' rel='nofollow'>Safari 525.13</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>Gene, you&#8217;re wrong. I just launched the AP Mobile app on my iPhone, and waited for the front page to appear and update. Then I tapped the home button. I launched AP Mobile again. The iPhone did NOT resume the AP Mobile app where it left off, it restarted the app with the same waiting time and update process.</p>
<p>Another example: PRI is an app that streams Public Radio International live (in other words, you are not playing back individually selected, canned files or podcasts). While PRI was playing, I touched the Home button. The audio cut out immediately. If the act of touching the Home button did not quit the app, then the audio would have continued.</p>
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		<title>By: Gene Steinberg</title>
		<link>http://www.technightowl.com/2009/06/the-iphone-3-0-report-let-the-lame-reviews-begin/comment-page-1/#comment-14385</link>
		<dc:creator>Gene Steinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s double talking my friend. A launch screen launches the app it depicts; there is no other way to launch an app. As the app is launched, the app you were previously using is automatically quit. It&#039;s not a two-step process.

Peace,
Gene</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 530.15' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 530.15'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 530.15' rel='nofollow'>Safari 530.15</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>That&#8217;s double talking my friend. A launch screen launches the app it depicts; there is no other way to launch an app. As the app is launched, the app you were previously using is automatically quit. It&#8217;s not a two-step process.</p>
<p>Peace,<br />
Gene</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 17:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gene, you DO have to quit one app on the iPhone to start another. To launch a new app, you have to go back to one of the launch screens. Doing so quits the current app immediately. You cannot launch another app without going to one of the launch screens, therefore you MUST quit one app to launch another. This can be proved quite obviously by the fact that if you go Home from an app, then tap that same app again, it must restart.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 525.13' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 525.13'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 525.13' rel='nofollow'>Safari 525.13</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/mac.png' title='Mac OS' style='border:0px;' alt='Mac OS'/> Mac OS <p>Gene, you DO have to quit one app on the iPhone to start another. To launch a new app, you have to go back to one of the launch screens. Doing so quits the current app immediately. You cannot launch another app without going to one of the launch screens, therefore you MUST quit one app to launch another. This can be proved quite obviously by the fact that if you go Home from an app, then tap that same app again, it must restart.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:43:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may remotely wipe my backed-up Edge phone before I upgrade to the [s] later today, once I&#039;m sure the UPS driver has dropped it off at the loading dock.

Perhaps we&#039;ll get some sort of cute graphic?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[ <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/net/safari.png' title='Safari 530.17' style='border:0px;' alt='Safari 530.17'/> <a href='http://www.apple.com/safari/' title='Safari 530.17' rel='nofollow'>Safari 530.17</a>  <img src='http://www.technightowl.com/wp-content/plugins/useragent-spy/img/16/os/win.png' title='Windows XP' style='border:0px;' alt='Windows XP'/> Windows XP<p>I may remotely wipe my backed-up Edge phone before I upgrade to the [s] later today, once I&#8217;m sure the UPS driver has dropped it off at the loading dock.</p>
<p>Perhaps we&#8217;ll get some sort of cute graphic?</p>
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